Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.
Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.
This article is a summary of a conversation from the Giving Voice to Depression podcast, hosted by Terry McGuire. In this moving and insightful episode titled Ep. 368: “Softening Into the Darkness”, guest Eric shares his deeply personal experience of living with long-term depression. Instead of trying to eliminate or outsmart his depression, Eric describes how he began a radical shift in perspective: softening into it, embracing it, and ultimately transforming his relationship with it. Below are nine lessons from Eric’s story that offer hope, insight, and tools for anyone navigating their own mental health challenges.
Eric starts by challenging the common notion that mental health recovery is a destination. He explains that healing isn’t about wiping away depression entirely:
Eric shared:
It doesn’t mean that I’m no longer depressed, it doesn’t mean that I still don’t have my bad days, but I’m less pinned underneath them.
Instead of seeking a silver bullet or a cure, Eric began recognizing subtle signs that he was returning to himself—laughing more easily, feeling creative again, and reconnecting with hope.
Key takeaways:
One of the most powerful metaphors Eric uses to describe his depression is a giant boulder pinning him to the earth:
Eric described:
In a lot of my guided meditations, I could feel the weight of such a boulder—like on my chest, and just pinning me to the earth. And you can’t move, you can’t lift it, you’re just getting crushed.
This physical imagery helped him communicate just how debilitating depression can be—not just emotionally but functionally.
Key signs of this kind of weight include:
Eric also speaks to the shame that comes with being unable to “handle life”:
As Eric put it:
The shame of feeling like I can’t do these things, but I know that I can. I know that I can if I just tried hard enough or if I wasn’t lazy.
From the outside, it may appear that someone is simply being unmotivated. But for those experiencing it, depression includes self-blame, guilt, and feeling broken.
Ways to reduce internalized shame:
Eric had long tried to understand his depression through intellectual analysis. But talk therapy alone left him stuck:
Eric explained:
If I could only understand, then maybe I could solve, maybe I could cure… But the more I understood about my depression, the more I kept running into this wall.
He began to recognize that managing depression wasn’t about outthinking it, but about engaging his emotions and body in a deeper way.
What Eric tried before the shift:
What finally helped: A shift to what he called “heartwork.”
The turning point for Eric came with Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy, which personifies our inner parts. For Eric, the boulder had a name: Atlas.
Eric shared:
He was holding up the boulder to protect the parts that were trapped underneath it… my innocence and my inner child.
This revelation allowed him to see depression not as an enemy, but as a protector—a part doing its best to shield him from pain.
IFS helped him:
Instead of resisting or rejecting his depression, Eric learned to soften into it:
As Eric described:
The rigidity, the resistance to my depression only deepened it… The greatest movement that I’ve been able to succeed with in managing my depression has been grace, softening.
This acceptance didn’t mean giving up. It meant embracing all parts of himself and loosening the hold that control and resistance had on him.
Softening looked like:
Eric admits that during the darkest moments, hope felt out of reach. Instead, he discovered something quieter and more sustainable: faith.
Eric said:
There was a time where I wasn’t sure if I wanted to be here at all… But now I have a confidence and a faith in myself in knowing that I want to find out what happens next.
As Terry reflected, when hope isn’t accessible, curiosity can be a gentler stepping stone.
Try asking yourself:
Eric beautifully described a metaphor of a sprouting potato to explain his newfound sense of rootedness:
Eric reflected:
In our dark night of the soul, we are so just yearning for soil, for nourishment, and we will reach everywhere to find it. And once we do, we can start the process of growing.
After years of clawing through the mud, Eric now lets the path rise to meet him.
This groundedness includes:
Eric’s story reminds us that healing is not a straight line. There will be cycles, triggers, and setbacks:
As Terry explained:
It is brave work and it is difficult work and it is work that we’re likely going to have to do again… But each step forward is a step forward.
The goal isn’t to arrive at a final “cured” state. It’s to gain more tools, more grace, and more confidence each time we come around again.
Eric’s story offers a deeply important reminder that healing doesn’t mean achieving some perfect version of ourselves. It means meeting ourselves where we are—with compassion, curiosity, and acceptance. His experience shows us that even the darkest times hold information and that the things we often resist most are sometimes the ones trying to help us the most.
By honoring the parts of himself he once rejected, Eric created a more unified and loving internal system. His shift from trying to outthink depression to feeling and listening to it helped him cultivate a sense of peace and rootedness that continues to guide his path forward.
Softening into the darkness does not mean giving in to it—it means refusing to turn away from ourselves, even when what we see is painful. Eric’s ability to sit with the boulder rather than fight it allowed him to understand what it was protecting, and in doing so, he recovered a part of himself he hadn’t accessed in years.
His story reminds us that we don’t need to fix every flaw or eliminate every difficult emotion. Instead, we can build a new relationship with our suffering—one rooted in tenderness, bravery, and self-respect. The journey may be thorny, but as Eric shows, there is strength in vulnerability and growth in groundedness. We may never be entirely free from depression, but we can become freer in how we carry it.
Ultimately, healing is not a single event, but a daily commitment to show up, soften, and listen. Some days we will still feel heavy. But as Eric reminds us, if we can approach ourselves with grace, we can put the boulder down—at least for a while.
If you or someone you love is navigating depression, Eric’s story offers a compassionate lens and gentle encouragement: you don’t have to force your way forward. You can soften into the darkness—and still grow.
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