Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.
Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.
This article is a longform summary of a powerful episode of the Giving Voice to Depression podcast, hosted by Terry McGuire. In this conversation, guest Cara McErlain shares what it’s like to live with long-term depression, the profound lessons she’s learned through therapy, and why the fleeting moments of happiness after darkness are so deeply meaningful. With insight, warmth, and hard-won wisdom, Cara offers hope for anyone struggling to hold on in their darkest moments.
The podcast continues its mission to reduce stigma and normalize conversations about mental health by amplifying the voices of those who live with these experiences every day. This particular episode resonates not just because of the pain described, but because of the unmistakable humanity, humor, and insight Cara brings to her recovery journey. Whether you live with depression yourself or love someone who does, this episode offers vital reminders that healing is possible and that no one is ever truly alone in their struggle.
Many people associate depression with sadness, but as Cara explains, it can show up in many ways:
As Cara described:
You don’t think you’re ever going to feel the happiness again… your surroundings are almost like tinted as gray.
Cara emphasized that the experience of depression is not simply about feeling blue; it can completely consume your thoughts, energy, and sense of self.
Cara began experiencing symptoms of depression as a teenager. But like many, she didn’t recognize it at the time:
As Cara reflected:
I thought that’s how we lived, really.
When we grow up in emotionally difficult environments, it’s hard to realize our suffering isn’t normal. Naming depression is the first step to healing.
Cara bravely opened up about experiencing suicidal thoughts and attempts. This wasn’t about wanting attention — it was a desperate attempt to escape unrelenting pain:
As Cara candidly shared:
There were times where I just didn’t want to be here… that thought was there for quite some time.
Her story reinforces the urgency of talking openly about suicidal ideation and the critical importance of early intervention.
Cara says starting therapy again in 2021 was the best thing she ever did — but it wasn’t easy:
As Cara explained:
It made me feel worse in a sense. But I had to do this… It was the first time where we validated the word trauma.
Healing doesn’t follow a straight line. Sometimes it means making a bigger mess before putting things back together.
One of Cara’s most profound turning points was when her therapist helped her realize that what she experienced was trauma:
As Cara noted:
I actually didn’t deserve that… There’s a sense of paying gratitude to my difficulties because of how it’s made me grow.
This kind of validation can break the shame cycle that keeps so many stuck.
Cara describes a night in 2021 when she broke down crying while driving. She felt hopeless. Lost. But somehow, she reached out:
As Cara recalled:
I was so proud of myself that session. It was the wee bit of light I needed in a very, very dark time.
You don’t have to be fully ready to heal to take the first step. Sometimes, survival is enough.
Cara’s story highlights the unpredictable nature of mental health recovery:
As Cara shared:
It just shows the bumpiness of it… knowing that in the really dark times, you felt happiness the week before.
Recovery isn’t a straight line. It’s a winding road filled with both setbacks and breakthroughs.
Cara finds hope in what she calls “snippets of happiness”:
As Cara described:
I was actually content there for 10 seconds. I never thought I would actually be able to just enjoy coffee.
These glimpses remind us that healing is not only possible, but already happening.
To help her remember that light exists, Cara journals on good days:
As Cara advised:
Let’s also journal whenever we’re feeling good… It’ll remind us that it’s possible.
In moments of hopelessness, that proof can be a lifeline.
Hearing hope from someone who’s been hopeless can be transformative:
As Cara encouraged:
You are a human being and you deserve to live and you deserve to live a happy life.
That message lands differently when it comes from someone who’s lived the truth of it.
Dr. Anita Sanz offers a powerful reminder:
As Dr. Anita Sanz explained:
Force yourself… as hard as it is, to stay in the present moment when the present moment is awful.
Staying present doesn’t mean pretending things are fine. It means trusting that this too shall pass.
Cara’s story serves as a vivid reminder that light often follows darkness — not in fairy-tale ways, but in deeply real and often subtle ones. Her lived experience affirms something essential: even in our lowest moments, even when we feel broken or empty, we still hold the power to make the smallest of choices — to hold on, to speak up, to reach out. And those choices can lead us back to the light.
As Terry McGuire beautifully reflected:
We as humans — not even just humans with depression — tend to find what we’re looking for. So if we look for reasons and ways that our value in the world is affirmed, we can usually find something.
We’re not guaranteed a life free of struggle, but we can create one rich with meaning, connection, and resilience. We can build it one small step, one deep breath, one whispered reminder at a time: hold on. Light is possible.
Moments of hope may feel fleeting at first, but with time and attention, they can multiply. They may begin as brief flashes — a sip of coffee savored, a comforting hug, a moment of peace on a quiet walk — but those flashes matter. They are proof. And they are the very building blocks of recovery. For anyone in darkness right now, take heart in knowing that you do not have to wait for a full cure or transformation to start feeling better. You only have to start by holding on — until tomorrow, until the next moment of light, and then the next.
Here are a few essential lessons from Cara’s story to carry with you or share with someone in need:
If you or someone you know is struggling with depression, consider sharing this episode of Giving Voice to Depression or reaching out to a trusted support resource. There is no shame in needing help. And there is always hope — even when we can’t yet see it.
As Cara urged:
Don’t believe everything that your depression tells you. Please don’t believe it.
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