


Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.




Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.
This article is a summary of a heartfelt and revealing episode of the Giving Voice to Depression podcast, hosted by Terry McGuire. In Episode 18, titled “Identifying and Managing Depression,” Terry and co-host Bridget speak with Liz, a woman with lived experience of multiple types of depression.
Liz’s story is one of hard-earned wisdom, resilience, and a deep desire to help others through what she’s learned. Her journey reflects the reality of living with depression—how it can take different forms, hide in plain sight, and require patience, persistence, and community support to manage.
Through her vulnerability and honesty, Liz reminds us that healing is possible, and that no one should have to suffer in silence.
Here are 9+ powerful takeaways from the conversation.
Liz describes her depression experiences as falling into two very different categories:
As Liz explained:
There are times when I’ve had episodes of depression that have been caused by death: deaths in the family and so on. And those always had sort of a life expectancy. They had a beginning and an end.
As Liz continued:
These were very traumatic things. And those depressions were feeling this pain of the loss. I mean, it’s a physical thing as much as anything. And then as time went on, that depression started to lift and it was gradual. It wasn’t like one day, snap, I’m feeling so much better. You know what? Now that I know what the hell it is, I’m okay with it. I really am.
By contrast, the second type of depression was far more difficult to endure.
As Liz added:
I had the ‘pull yourself up by your bootstraps’ depression. And I also had the chemical imbalance, which I could do … I could pull myself up forever, and I’d never get above water if these wires weren’t going to reconnect. I couldn’t make them reconnect unless something was able to do that.
Understanding that depression can stem from different sources—and present in different ways—is essential for both treatment and compassion.
Liz is clear: recovery didn’t come from one source. It was the result of multiple strategies and a deep personal commitment to getting better.
As Liz put it:
We don’t have to suffer in silence. I’ve always been the person—I want to get better, and I’m willing to do all the hard work, whatever that involves. And I would not be where I am today if I had not done that hard work. It wasn’t just going on antidepressants. I mean, I had to do talk therapy, but I could sit in talk therapy for 20 years. And if that depression never got touched…
Her story shows that healing from depression isn’t about a quick fix. It’s about finding the right mix—and sticking with it.
Many people living with depression don’t even realize they’re depressed. This was true for Liz until someone else saw the signs and named it.
As Liz recalled:
I didn’t know. It took somebody else to see this, and somebody else identified it for me and said, ‘I think you have depression.’ And at that point I was like, ‘I think you’re right. This feels different.’
This insight came from someone who struggled with depression themselves—someone who understood the signs but wasn’t publicly open about their own experience.
Sometimes, the people best equipped to recognize our suffering are those who have been through it themselves.
Once Liz was in a better place, she paid it forward. She noticed the signs of depression in a friend and gently, persistently encouraged her to get help.
As Liz shared:
So it took a while with her, and the last time I saw her, I mean, she was at risk of losing her family. I finally said to her, ‘I hope you can get to the point where you can understand that this is not a failure on your part. If you can trust me because I’ve been through this, you will feel better. Find a doctor you really trust who will walk you through the journey and know that it’s going to be hit and miss for a while.’
Her friend—who had previously resisted medication—eventually agreed to treatment and began to improve.
As Liz added:
I just saw her yesterday and she’s been on the antidepressants and it levels the playing field. She’s not any different. She’s just more of herself without having to carry an extensive amount of baggage.
Stigma around medication remains a major barrier. But Liz’s story reinforces that taking antidepressants doesn’t change who you are—it removes barriers that keep you from showing up fully.
As Liz noted:
She’s not any different. She’s just more of herself without having to carry an extensive amount of baggage. That’s probably a good way to look at it.
Removing stigma—especially among medical professionals, like Liz’s friend—is a crucial step in widening access to meaningful support.
Liz found healing not only in therapy and medication, but in the practices she developed on her own. Her self-care toolbox includes:
As Liz emphasized:
Nature is my healing place. It absolutely is.
These methods might not work for everyone, but for Liz, they provide additional grounding, pleasure, and peace—essential ingredients for managing depression.
Often, the best way to support someone who is struggling is to simply be there. Not to give advice. Not to probe for answers. Just to sit with them.
As Liz described:
It’s just meeting somebody where they are and just sitting with them and being present. And I think that’s really important: just sitting with people, just to be there and not have any expectations in any way, shape, or form—and listen. And listening, I think I’m going to put that at the top of the list. I would need people to hear me and listen.
Even a movie night or a quiet walk can serve as an act of love and solidarity.
Terry and Bridget reflect on how depression warps reality, flooding the mind with untrue, harmful thoughts. The key, they say, is learning to separate fact from fiction—and then push back.
As Bridget shared:
As I get older, I give myself permission to stop a lot… I hear myself going… I actually like make up things that aren’t even real that I imagine somebody is thinking or saying. I have no idea what they’re thinking or saying. Why am I like going at it in my head with them when it’s not even real?
Learning to pause, recognize the voice of depression, and tell it to quiet down is a powerful skill.
Terry compares depression management to other chronic illnesses. In other medical contexts, we prepare emergency plans and designate support people. Why not do the same for mental health?
As Terry eloquently put it:
Who’s on your speed dial that if it really gets bad, you can call and say, ‘I need you to be with me’? … I always do it myself. But I don’t know that that’s the best choice.
A depression support plan might include:
At the heart of this episode is the ripple effect of openness. Because someone helped Liz, she helped someone else—and the chain continues.
As Bridget beautifully explained:
Because somebody reached out to help Liz, Liz is able to help other people… I really see it as like linking hands and making our chain bigger and bigger and longer and stronger.
Sharing your story doesn’t just help others—it also helps you. It brings light into dark corners and reminds you that your experience, while painful, has value.
If there’s one message this episode delivers, it’s this: you are not failing because you are struggling. Depression is not a weakness or moral flaw—it is an illness. Like any illness, it deserves proper care, compassion, and support.
As Liz said with hope and conviction:
It’s hard and it’s dark, but it’s not like that forever. At least not my experience of that.
The process of identifying and managing depression is deeply personal, often nonlinear, and never easy. But with a mix of tools, a willingness to seek help, and people who care, healing is possible.
And as Terry and Bridget remind us, being willing to talk about depression—really talk about it—is a brave and generous act.
By giving voice to depression, we not only help ourselves. We help build a more compassionate world.
You’re not a failure. Depression is an illness, not a personal shortcoming. Help is available, and recovery is possible.
Not all depression is the same. Some forms are situational; others are chemical. Understanding the difference is key.
It takes more than one tool. Medication, therapy, self-care, and social support all play roles in healing.
Support doesn’t have to be complex. Just showing up—without judgment or expectation—can make a big difference.
Your voice matters. Sharing your story helps others feel less alone and contributes to breaking stigma.
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