Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.
Terry McGuire is an award-winning journalist and news anchor turned mental health and hope advocate. The Giving Voice to Depression podcast that she created and cohosts has been downloaded more than 2.5 million times, and ranks in the top 1% of global podcasts.
Grief after suicide is not like other grief. In this episode, Terry speaks with Deb Sherwood, a longtime journalist whose husband, Bob, died by suicide after years of serious health challenges. Deb’s story traces the realities of caregiving exhaustion, the shock of discovery, the maze of law-enforcement procedures, and the heavy, isolating weight of secrecy—followed by the gradual healing she found through honesty, support groups, and compassionate listening.
Terry’s trademark tone—clear-eyed, kind, and stigma-challenging—threads through the conversation. The lessons below distill what emerged: practical guidance for people navigating suicide bereavement, and for anyone who wants to show up better for someone who’s grieving.
Suicide loss brings a traumatic aftermath that can involve police, a coroner, and detailed questioning at the worst possible moment. Survivors often replay final moments, wrestle with stigma and shame, and grapple with a bewildering mix of emotions—sadness, anger, love, confusion, and self-blame.
Naming these differences doesn’t make the pain vanish, but it helps survivors realize they aren’t “grieving wrong.” Their experience is consistent with what many suicide loss survivors face. That validation—so central to Terry’s conversations —creates room to breathe and to begin healing.
Key takeaways:
Deb describes “empathy exhaustion,” a moment familiar to many caregivers. After a night of repeated needs, she told her husband, “I don’t know how much longer I can do this.” She meant it in exhaustion, not rejection—but she still carries the weight of those words.
Caregiving for serious illness is a marathon of love, logistics, and sleep deprivation. It is not weakness to feel spent; it is human. Recognizing caregiver burnout and building supports early can reduce risk for everyone in the home.
Quick supports to consider:
Deb describes returning home on a day when her husband hadn’t answered texts. At first, her mind registered relief—he hadn’t fallen. Only moments later did the full reality register. This “staggered knowing” is common in traumatic shock. The brain protects itself, letting in the truth in increments.
After calling for help, Deb stepped outside—a decision informed by her years as a reporter who had covered suicide. It was an act of self-preservation and clarity: letting professionals take over while she focused on safety.
If you’re confronted with traumatic discovery:
Law enforcement must determine what happened. For survivors, this means deeply personal questions at a moment of raw shock: relationship history, finances, health, fears, recent conflicts. It can feel like an interrogation even when officers are doing their jobs compassionately.
Being prepared for this reality—no matter how difficult—can prevent secondary shock. It doesn’t mean you did anything wrong. It means the system is ruling out every possibility.
Grounding ideas in the moment:
Deb’s mind went straight to guilt: Did her exhausted words nudge Bob toward a decision he had been contemplating? Her therapist later acknowledged her words likely had some impact—and that acknowledgment, painful as it was, validated Deb’s intuition and allowed honest processing.
Guilt in suicide grief is nearly universal. It feeds on hindsight and the illusion of control. The work is not to erase accountability for what we said or didn’t say, but to right-size it inside the larger reality of mental illness, pain, and the complex reasons people die by suicide.
Ways to work with guilt:
Friends urged Deb to hide the truth to protect Bob’s reputation—and, by extension, her own. Because he had been ill, there was a plausible “cover story.” She kept the secret for a year. The result? Fewer chances for others to offer the specific support suicide loss requires—and a grief she had to carry largely alone.
Deb’s turning point came through support groups and an intensive outpatient program, where honest sharing proved transformative. Transparency created connection. Connection accelerated healing.
Deb reflected:
I think I realize that even going to suicide support groups that people need to talk about it and it does help to talk about and it can make a difference for other people, as well.
Well-meaning phrases can unintentionally romanticize suicide or shut down conversation. For people with suicidal ideation, hearing that death brings relief may function as confirmation. Survivors often need language that honors the pain without glamorizing the outcome.
Try these alternatives:
Terry notes how common it is for suicidal people to believe their loved ones would be better off without them. That thought—“I’m a burden”—is a classic marker of risk and a sign of how illness distorts reality. Deb believes Bob didn’t want to “burden her anymore—financially, physically, psychologically.”
Naming this belief as part of the illness, not a final verdict on one’s worth, can be life-saving. It’s an invitation to counter with concrete, loving facts and to mobilize additional supports.
What helps in real time:
Deb’s healing accelerated in suicide loss groups—places where “you don’t have to translate.” Being with people who understand the unique pain of suicide bereavement normalizes the messiness and removes the pressure to make others comfortable. It also provides scripts for difficult conversations and ideas for managing holidays, anniversaries, and secondary losses.
How to engage:
Some urged Deb to protect Bob’s professional reputation by hiding his cause of death. Deb ultimately concluded that silence—meant to shield—kept her suffering private and stalled her healing. Honesty, by contrast, allowed others to know her real story and allowed Bob’s story to help others.
Honoring a loved one includes telling the truth about their struggles. It is not reductive; it is complete. Honesty combats stigma and opens doors for communal care.
Deb’s hope was clear:
That’s really my hope is that it can make a difference. I can’t change what’s happened in my life… but I need to share the experience to let people know that it is okay to talk about it. It’s really important to talk about it… to help heal because that was probably the worst decision I made—to not tell people.
Deb describes herself as stronger and more empathetic now. She listens for how people say they’re “okay,” and she gently probes when something sounds off. She accepts that everyone’s path through this landmine field is different—and that what helps one person may not be right for another.
Healing doesn’t mean never feeling guilt or sorrow again. It means carrying those feelings in ways that make room for meaning, memory, and forward motion.
Deb shared:
Well, I’m a stronger person now. I’m much more empathetic… And if somebody says, “I’m… okay…” you kind of go “Is something going on?” You kind of push a little more.
The immediate aftermath is overwhelming. Survivors benefit from checklists and gentle structure when cognitive load is high.
A short, humane checklist:
Friends often feel tongue-tied. Survivors often feel abandoned when people avoid them for fear of “saying the wrong thing.” Guidelines can help.
More helpful:
Less helpful:
Deb doesn’t erase her marriage’s joy or complexity. She refuses to let the manner of Bob’s death swallow the decades of love, partnership, and shared craft. She also refuses to edit out her own humanity on the hardest night of her caregiving life.
This is courageous integration: holding a full story instead of a single, devastating chapter. Meaning-making is not spin; it’s the sacred task of grief.
Gentle practices:
Support is most visible in the first week—but the hardest terrain often arrives in weeks 3–12 when the world looks “normal” again. Mark calendars for the one-month, three-month, six-month, and one-year points. Plan tangible care that acknowledges the slow, nonlinear nature of healing from traumatic loss.
Seasonal check-ins can include:
By sharing publicly, Deb turns private pain into communal wisdom. Her honesty offers language and permission to those still hiding. It tells another survivor, “You are not the first to carry this, and you don’t have to carry it alone.”
Stories like Deb’s don’t sensationalize. They humanize. And in doing so, they chip away at the silence that isolates survivors and distorts how we understand suicide and the people we love who die by it.
Deb’s words to others resonate:
I could only appreciate all that we had together… but I need to share the experience to let people know that it is okay to talk about it.
This is a grief episode—but prevention is present throughout. The “burden” belief, empathy exhaustion, and the importance of speaking plainly about suicidal thoughts all point toward earlier conversations. Deb’s sharpened listening—hearing the “I’m… okay” with a question mark—models the micro-prevention moves ordinary people can make.
Everyday prevention looks like:
Deb holds deep love for Bob, regret for a sentence spoken in exhaustion, and hope that her story will help others. None cancels the others. Terry’s conversation honors that complexity, and it invites readers to honor their own.
There is no perfect language, perfect timeline, or perfect survivor. There is only honest story, shared in community, slowly turning pain into connection and, eventually, into a different kind of strength.
No one has to navigate suicide bereavement in silence. Deb’s story—and Terry’s steady, stigma-cutting presence—shows that honest conversation can restore connection and begin to lighten the weight.
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